The Memory of Water Investigated by Benveniste
This story is old news to many people, but not to everyone. I am bringing it up because it does not fade. It only builds. More evidence and researchers are coming to conclude that there is something special to water. Plain water. It has remained a mystery. Many properties define the laws of nature for all other substances. Spiritually, it is used for many rituals. It is a vital part of keeping us alive.
The video shows the astonishment of Dr Benveniste when the experiment was conducted. The hypothesis that water diluted to such a degree would show no response or effects. However, there could be no other explanation. From this point we must continue investigation and get a better understanding.
When the skeptic Randi comes on to the scene to make a mockery of this news, he does not adhere to the rules of objectivity and the scientific method. There are no checks and balances and carries on with an attitude of mockery, superiority, and chicanery as is his magician's style.
DIALOGUE OF THE VIDEO WITH EDITORIAL NOTES
For 14 years Benveniste investigated into allergies. He thought it was a joke when a colleague suggested homeopathy had any effects. It was going too far, for a rationalistic person who was classically trained medical physician.
This film says homeopathy is widely used in France, but that few doctors prescribed it. They say it is irrational to believe that the more diluted a substance the more effective it could be. Homeopathic remedies also are repeatedly diluted and shaken/succussed.
The moderator asks, "Why did Benveniste think it worth investigate?"
Perhaps because a true investigative unbiased scientist questions what he does not understand and then pursues the answer.
A colleague, who was homeopathic doctor, said to try diluting the reagents used in their lab tests and see themselves if there can be a reaction. That was in 1982 or 1983. Benveniste said there was nothing there after all the dilution. However, initial tests said it was something. He couldn't believe
He wanted to be sure and had his assistant Elizabeth retest.
Homeopaths believe shaking energizes water. Homeopaths actually 'succuss' which is a strong tapping motion. And once the substance has risen above the 20th dilution, nothing left of starting substance. They administered the highest dilutions to blood samples. Of course, he did not expect any reaction by the histamine basophyles from the reagent that was highly diluted.
He says his assistant found results were the same as after an application of the full strength reagent. The second set of data made him question his own belief. Nothing can make these basophyls degranulate on their own. The tests were supposedly done in the research lab under quality conditions.
How could anything make a change? it was just water. He needed to know more. even after 2-3 years of research. even diluting a billion billion times. His explanation was the memory of water. Even with this dilution the water still knew the original substance.
Scientists submit their research to Nature magazine to publish to the entire scientific community. Sometimes things that cannot be explained are rejected outright. So, they were not going to publish. Benveniste said he compared himself to Galileo.
Nature agreed to publish on conditions a team would investigate the lab. The results were a condemnation of his work in June 1988.
He agreed for the committee to visit the lab, since there was nothing to hide. That is when he found out the people selected were impostures and not scientists. Walter Stewart, James Randi and John Maddox. Their "intention" was to uncover fraud and so this is exactly what they did. It was all a set up.
If they couldn't find a way to find something wrong with Benveniste, they put the blame on his staff and assistance. They gave an explanation that there was bias in the lab, because they were looking for results and so that is what they found.
It is strange that this works both ways. The committee was looking for a way to dismiss the actual findings. Therefore, they claimed the lab assistants were looking for a way to explain their results, by reproducing the same lab findings over the course of 2-3 years.
I always find it amazing how the two opposites seem to attract and one cancels out the other. Then he says Elizabeth did not enter the experiments that did not work and filled in papers afterwards. This is a game of He Said, She Said.
Benveniste says that the committee investigation was fixed before they started. They dismissed the entire project after one failure, and they were automatically prejudiced by using their own people instead of a completely impartial group of research scientists.
James Randi and friends were doing a witch hunt, and then "Nature" rejected the paper. The reason given is that if this were true, then the world of science would have to change.
And this is what is happening today.
Galileo Looks at Dante's Version of Hell
View PDF File About Memory of Water
The Memory of Water Redeemed | Science 24 December 2010 | An interview by NewsCom with Luc Montagnier, French 2008 Nobel Prize Winner for discovering HIV speaks about the memory of water. Montagnier is relocating from Paris to Shanghai where he will investigate pathogenic DNA electromagnetic waves. These biomarker signals may reveal information about bacteria and viruses linked to a number of diseases, including autism, Parkinson's, Multiple Sclerosis and Alzheimer's. Maybe the geiger counter analogy would fit for diagnosing illness. In this interview, Montagnier called Benveniste a Modern Day Galileo. Basically, "High dilutions of something are not nothing." Montagnier's bold assertions will test the future of medicine.
Dr. Jacques Benveniste Digibio Part 2
Video Part Two
Through the application of homeopathically prepared remedies ~ diluted and succussed substances that were applied to blood cells ~ there were results indicative of molecular substance. However, based upon the dilution level, there are supposedly no molecules left in the dilution. There is no explanation. It is quite surprising to the scientists that there could be a change in the blood.
Dr. Jacques Benveniste states the "structure" of biochemicals can be impressed on water electrically using white noise and coils and that the water will display some of the activity of the original biochemical.
This information comes from the YouTube document: The experiment can be reproduced by winding two coils around a test tube containing a water solution having a particular biochemical. Play white noise into one coil, sense the modified white noise via the other coil. A sort of "water-core transformer," with the water containing the chemical being studied. Transmit the "modified" white-noise to a distant location (or record it, then mail the recording to the distant location, or send it as a digitized .wav file over the internet.)
Bandwidth must be about 22KHz, perhaps lower. At the distant location (where cross-contamination is unlikely) play the modified white-noise signal into a coil that's wrapped around a test tube full of pure water. Shake the tube during this process, otherwise the water supposedly won't "record" the pattern reliably. Test for presence of the original biochemical.
See if the pure water will cause appropriate reactions in sensitive bio-materials. Alternately: play the modified white noise signal into a coil wrapped around the bio-sensitive material itself and see if it has any effect.
The Memory of Water
Jacques Benveniste
Jacques Benveniste - Wikipedia
French immunologist. In 1979 he published a well-known paper on the structure of platelet-activating factor and its relationship with histamine.
NATURE: Benveniste's reputation was not written in water
Jacques Benveniste, the French immunologist who claimed that water has a 'memory' a putative explanation for homeopathic medicine died on 3 October, 2004 in Paris after heart surgery. He was 69 years old.
Benveniste's Nature article by Dana Ullman
Dana Ullman explains the debunking by Nature Magazine and the outrageous behavior of the
'inquisitors' committee
International Academy of CLASSICAL HOMEOPATHY - The controversy with the BBC - program Horizon
Dialogue between George Vithoulkas and Horizon Magazine Editor Matthew Barrett talking about the differences of opinion on the premise and outcome of these experiments.
The Law of Similars
The principle that like shall be cured by like, or "Similia similibus curantur." This principle, recognized by physicians and philosophers since ancient times, became the basis of Hahnemann's formulation of the homeopathic doctrine: the proper remedy for a patient's disease is that substance that is capable of producing, in a healthy person, symptoms similar to those from which the patient suffers.
In other words, a substance produces symptoms of illness in a well person when administered in large doses; if we administer the same substance in minute quantities, it will cure the disease in a sick person. Hahnemann suggested that this is because nature will not allow two similar diseases to exist in the body at the same time. Thus homeopaths will introduce a similar artificial disease into the body which will push the original one out. The dose is small so that there is no danger of any long term side effects.
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This story is old news to many people, but not to everyone. I am bringing it up because it does not fade. It only builds. More evidence and researchers are coming to conclude that there is something special to water. Plain water. It has remained a mystery. Many properties define the laws of nature for all other substances. Spiritually, it is used for many rituals. It is a vital part of keeping us alive.
The video shows the astonishment of Dr Benveniste when the experiment was conducted. The hypothesis that water diluted to such a degree would show no response or effects. However, there could be no other explanation. From this point we must continue investigation and get a better understanding.
When the skeptic Randi comes on to the scene to make a mockery of this news, he does not adhere to the rules of objectivity and the scientific method. There are no checks and balances and carries on with an attitude of mockery, superiority, and chicanery as is his magician's style.
DIALOGUE OF THE VIDEO WITH EDITORIAL NOTES
For 14 years Benveniste investigated into allergies. He thought it was a joke when a colleague suggested homeopathy had any effects. It was going too far, for a rationalistic person who was classically trained medical physician.
This film says homeopathy is widely used in France, but that few doctors prescribed it. They say it is irrational to believe that the more diluted a substance the more effective it could be. Homeopathic remedies also are repeatedly diluted and shaken/succussed.
The moderator asks, "Why did Benveniste think it worth investigate?"
Perhaps because a true investigative unbiased scientist questions what he does not understand and then pursues the answer.
A colleague, who was homeopathic doctor, said to try diluting the reagents used in their lab tests and see themselves if there can be a reaction. That was in 1982 or 1983. Benveniste said there was nothing there after all the dilution. However, initial tests said it was something. He couldn't believe
He wanted to be sure and had his assistant Elizabeth retest.
Homeopaths believe shaking energizes water. Homeopaths actually 'succuss' which is a strong tapping motion. And once the substance has risen above the 20th dilution, nothing left of starting substance. They administered the highest dilutions to blood samples. Of course, he did not expect any reaction by the histamine basophyles from the reagent that was highly diluted.
He says his assistant found results were the same as after an application of the full strength reagent. The second set of data made him question his own belief. Nothing can make these basophyls degranulate on their own. The tests were supposedly done in the research lab under quality conditions.
How could anything make a change? it was just water. He needed to know more. even after 2-3 years of research. even diluting a billion billion times. His explanation was the memory of water. Even with this dilution the water still knew the original substance.
Scientists submit their research to Nature magazine to publish to the entire scientific community. Sometimes things that cannot be explained are rejected outright. So, they were not going to publish. Benveniste said he compared himself to Galileo.
Nature agreed to publish on conditions a team would investigate the lab. The results were a condemnation of his work in June 1988.
He agreed for the committee to visit the lab, since there was nothing to hide. That is when he found out the people selected were impostures and not scientists. Walter Stewart, James Randi and John Maddox. Their "intention" was to uncover fraud and so this is exactly what they did. It was all a set up.
If they couldn't find a way to find something wrong with Benveniste, they put the blame on his staff and assistance. They gave an explanation that there was bias in the lab, because they were looking for results and so that is what they found.
It is strange that this works both ways. The committee was looking for a way to dismiss the actual findings. Therefore, they claimed the lab assistants were looking for a way to explain their results, by reproducing the same lab findings over the course of 2-3 years.
I always find it amazing how the two opposites seem to attract and one cancels out the other. Then he says Elizabeth did not enter the experiments that did not work and filled in papers afterwards. This is a game of He Said, She Said.
Benveniste says that the committee investigation was fixed before they started. They dismissed the entire project after one failure, and they were automatically prejudiced by using their own people instead of a completely impartial group of research scientists.
James Randi and friends were doing a witch hunt, and then "Nature" rejected the paper. The reason given is that if this were true, then the world of science would have to change.
And this is what is happening today.
Galileo Looks at Dante's Version of Hell
View PDF File About Memory of Water
The Memory of Water Redeemed | Science 24 December 2010 | An interview by NewsCom with Luc Montagnier, French 2008 Nobel Prize Winner for discovering HIV speaks about the memory of water. Montagnier is relocating from Paris to Shanghai where he will investigate pathogenic DNA electromagnetic waves. These biomarker signals may reveal information about bacteria and viruses linked to a number of diseases, including autism, Parkinson's, Multiple Sclerosis and Alzheimer's. Maybe the geiger counter analogy would fit for diagnosing illness. In this interview, Montagnier called Benveniste a Modern Day Galileo. Basically, "High dilutions of something are not nothing." Montagnier's bold assertions will test the future of medicine.
Dr. Jacques Benveniste Digibio Part 2
Video Part Two
Through the application of homeopathically prepared remedies ~ diluted and succussed substances that were applied to blood cells ~ there were results indicative of molecular substance. However, based upon the dilution level, there are supposedly no molecules left in the dilution. There is no explanation. It is quite surprising to the scientists that there could be a change in the blood.
Dr. Jacques Benveniste states the "structure" of biochemicals can be impressed on water electrically using white noise and coils and that the water will display some of the activity of the original biochemical.
This information comes from the YouTube document: The experiment can be reproduced by winding two coils around a test tube containing a water solution having a particular biochemical. Play white noise into one coil, sense the modified white noise via the other coil. A sort of "water-core transformer," with the water containing the chemical being studied. Transmit the "modified" white-noise to a distant location (or record it, then mail the recording to the distant location, or send it as a digitized .wav file over the internet.)
Bandwidth must be about 22KHz, perhaps lower. At the distant location (where cross-contamination is unlikely) play the modified white-noise signal into a coil that's wrapped around a test tube full of pure water. Shake the tube during this process, otherwise the water supposedly won't "record" the pattern reliably. Test for presence of the original biochemical.
See if the pure water will cause appropriate reactions in sensitive bio-materials. Alternately: play the modified white noise signal into a coil wrapped around the bio-sensitive material itself and see if it has any effect.
The Memory of Water
Jacques Benveniste
Jacques Benveniste - Wikipedia
French immunologist. In 1979 he published a well-known paper on the structure of platelet-activating factor and its relationship with histamine.
NATURE: Benveniste's reputation was not written in water
Jacques Benveniste, the French immunologist who claimed that water has a 'memory' a putative explanation for homeopathic medicine died on 3 October, 2004 in Paris after heart surgery. He was 69 years old.
Benveniste's Nature article by Dana Ullman
Dana Ullman explains the debunking by Nature Magazine and the outrageous behavior of the
'inquisitors' committee
International Academy of CLASSICAL HOMEOPATHY - The controversy with the BBC - program Horizon
Dialogue between George Vithoulkas and Horizon Magazine Editor Matthew Barrett talking about the differences of opinion on the premise and outcome of these experiments.
The Law of Similars
The principle that like shall be cured by like, or "Similia similibus curantur." This principle, recognized by physicians and philosophers since ancient times, became the basis of Hahnemann's formulation of the homeopathic doctrine: the proper remedy for a patient's disease is that substance that is capable of producing, in a healthy person, symptoms similar to those from which the patient suffers.
In other words, a substance produces symptoms of illness in a well person when administered in large doses; if we administer the same substance in minute quantities, it will cure the disease in a sick person. Hahnemann suggested that this is because nature will not allow two similar diseases to exist in the body at the same time. Thus homeopaths will introduce a similar artificial disease into the body which will push the original one out. The dose is small so that there is no danger of any long term side effects.
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